Berto Monard wrote:
> surely, most > overweight WDs will go bang at their time! Where else are the > progenitors of the supernovae Type 1 then, iow how do WDs > increase their mass if not in close binaries?
This point has been argued by many authors. Not all accreting white dwarfs are expected to be observed as novae or typical CVs. Some may be found in symbiotic binaries, others may reside in the recently discovered class of binaries called supersoft X-ray sources (SSS). The latter class, named after its peculiar characteristics emitting most of its energy in soft X-ray and extreme UV regions, is claimed to have rapidly accreting white dwarfs with steadily burning surfaces. Quite fortunate (?) for southerners, most of known SSS's reside in the LMC and the SMC; there is only one in the northern hemisphere -- the VSOLJ has already started regular monitoring of this star (RX J0019.8+2156) in order to detect a possible supernova explosion -- what an immortal mind of pursuit! There is another way to make SNe Ia, by merging binary white dwarfs.
Hope supernovae professionals probably have a lecture further...
By the way, what about Monard's initial query whether supernova explosions (or collapses?) could be triggered by nova explosions?
Regards,
Taichi Kato
Hi ,
T Kato mentioned the supersoft X-ray sources (SSS) as possible S/N progenitors, a number of them residing in the Magellanic Clouds.
Please can someone forward names and addresses (coordinates) of such systems, so some hopefuls in the South could try their luck! What B and V magnitudes do they normally evolve around? Surely, they are out of reach of a 5" telescope.
Further questions: do these SSS somehow relate to Novalikes, which also accrete fast and what about these Nls as potential S/N candidates?
Regards,
Berto Monard,
Pretoria
To the best of my knowledge, there are several SSXS (Super Soft X-ray Sources) in the northern emisphere, not only that one mentioned by T.Kato. One that could be be an excellent target for CCD-equipped amateurs is Draco C-1, a symbiotic star in the Draco dwarf galaxy. It shines at V=17 and I=15. The donor star to the accreting white dwarf is a carbon bright giant, at the very tip of the AGB (to have a carbon giant in a dwarf galaxy means that star formation was still active not much long ago). Is the Carbon star in Draco C-1 pulsating ? If yes, the mass transfert to the WD companion would be larger. And if yes, what is the pulsating period ? The carbon stars in the Draco dwarfs seems unsually blue, and this could trigger quite short pulsation periods (lass than 100 days).
Regards Ulisse Munari Padova-Asiago Astronomical Observatories(vsnet-chat 61)
Berto Monard wrote:
> a number of them residing in the Magellanic Clouds. > Please can someone forward names and addresses (coordinates) > of such systems, so some hopefuls in the South could try their > luck! What B and V magnitudes do they normally evolve around? > Surely, they are out of reach of a 5" telescope. > > Further questions: do these SSS somehow relate to Novalikes, > which also accrete fast and what about these Nls as potential S/N > candidates?
Acoording to Marina Orio's table in "Cataclysmic Variables" p.429 (1995, Kluwer Academic Publishers) and some other literatures, following Magellanic and Galactic SSS's are listed.
Unfortunately this list contains neither precise coodinates, nor Draco C-1, though the object is rather familiar among northerners (as an extra- galactic symbiotic star reachable by amateur telescopes). Is there any catalog of SSS's like Ritter's or Downes & Shara's in CVs?
Regards,
Taichi Kato
LMC sources ----------- CAL 83 V~17.3 Porb=1.04d, persistent source CAL 87 V~20.1 Porb=10.6h, persistent source, eclipsing (Some may remember this name as a blackhole binary candidate. Recently imaged by HST.) RX J0513.9-6951 B~17 Porb=0.76d (recent determination), recurrent source high/low states RX J0527.8-6954 ? RX J0550-72 ? variable RX J0537-7034 ? variable RX J0439-68 ? constant SMC sources ----------- N 67 planetary nebula 1E 0035.4-7230 B~20 Porb=0.172d variable RX J0058-71 ? RX J0112-72 ? SMC 3 symbiotic star Galactic sources ---------------- GQ Mus nova, Porb=1.42h, "ON" for 9.5 years RR Tel symbiotic nova PW Vul? nova, "ON" for few years QU Vel? nova, "ON" for few years V1974 Cyg nova, "ON" for 1 year RX J0019.8+2156 B~12 Porb=15.8h, variable, high/low states RX J0925.7-4758 B~17 Porb=3.4d, persistent source H1504+65 B=16.24, PG1159 star (pulsating dO star) RX J2117.1+3412 V~13.2, PG1159 star AG Dra symbiotic star Porb=554d
Subject : SSXS Catalog
As I know of, an up-to-date list of SSXS is given by J. Greiner (Catalog of Luminous Supersoft X-Ray Sources, P285 of Supersoft X-Ray Sources, Ed. J. Greiner, 1996, Springer). Is there any newer list ?
Also, Mario Livio pointed out to me that the above mentioned book discussed about a possibility of SSXS be the SN Ia progenitors (Part V of the volume, P183 - P222).
Cheers,
-Kaz
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Kaz Sekiguchi wrote:
> As I know of, an up-to-date list of SSXS is given by J. Greiner (Catalog > of Luminous Supersoft X-Ray Sources, P285 of Supersoft X-Ray Sources, > Ed. J. Greiner, 1996, Springer). Is there any newer list ?Thank you very much for the information. I have once looked (but not read ;-) this book but overlooked the catalog. Coordinates and magnitudes added:
LMC sources ----------- CAL 83 05 43 33.5 -68 22 23 V=16.2-17.3 SSS CAL 87 05 46 52.3 -71 08 38 V=18.9 SSS RX J0513.9-6951 05 13 50.8 -69 51 47 V=16.7 SSS = HV 5682 RX J0527.8-6954 05 27 49.9 -69 54 09 unidentified RX J0550.0-7151 05 50 00.2 -71 52 09 unidentified RX J0537.7-7034 05 37 43.0 -70 34 15 unidentified RX J0439.8-6809 04 39 49.6 -68 09 02 V=21.7 SSS SMC sources ----------- N 67 00 58 37.0 -71 35 48 V=16.7 PN = 1E 0056.8-7154 1E 0035.4-7230 00 37 19.8 -72 14 13 V=20.2 SSS RX J0058.6-7146 00 58 35.8 -71 46 02 unidentified RX J0112-72 SMC 3 00 48 20.8 -73 31 53 V=15.5 Sy = RX J0048.4-7332 Galactic sources ---------------- GQ Mus 11 52 02.5 -67 12 24 V=7-21 N RR Tel 20 04 18.5 -55 43 34 V=7-14 Sy PW Vul? QU Vel? V1974 Cyg 20 30 31.2 -52 37 53 V=4.5-21 N RX J0019.8+2156 00 19 50.0 +21 56 54 V=12.2 SSS RX J0925.7-4758 09 25 46.2 -47 58 17 V=17.2 SSS H1504+65 (omitted) 1E 1339.8+2837 13 42 09.8 +28 22 45 unidentified RX J2117.1+3412 (omitted) AG Dra 16 01 40.9 +66 48 10 V=8-9.8 Sy (type: SSS = CAL 83-like supersoft source, PN = planetary nebula, Sy = symbiotic system, N = nova)
In this book, Draco C-1 is listed in the table of "symbiotic stars detected on pointed PSPC observations". Other detections include EG And, SMC 3, Ln 358, RX Pup, AG Dra, GX 1+4, Hen 1591, CH Cyg, HM Sge, V1016 Cyg, RR Tel, PU Vul, CD-43.14304, AG Peg and R Aqr. Non-detections include SMC 2, RAW 1691, BE 191, N 67, Sanduleak's star, MWC 560, He 2-38, RW Hya, Ap 1-8, H 2-38, Ap 1-9, AS 281, MWC 960 and Z And.
Regards,
Taichi Kato
Dear Readers,
In 1996 I received from Dr. Paul Schmidtke, Arizona State University, a number of reprints reporting the results of his work on LMC/SMC X-ray sources, especially Supersoft Sources (SSS). Study of these sources is a highly specialized area, involving firstly use of data form X-ray detecting satellites such as ROSAT. The identification of optical counterparts is a somewhat painstaking process, using large telescopes, as the optical ids., are generally faint, at the mag. 19-20 level. However, a couple of the LMC SSS's have been studied in some detail at optical wavelengths, such as CAL 87, which is an eclipsing binary. It shows short duration, shallow X-Ray eclipses which coincide in phase with the primary optical minimum. A paper appears in Pub. Ast. Soc. of the Pacific, 105, 863-866, 1993 August. A finder chart is given, but no coordinates. The position is (1950) 5h47m27.0s -71 10'11". This star is included in the list of known LMC variables in vol. 5 of the GCVS, as star V4382 (page 69).
Not all X-ray sources in the direction of the Magellanic clouds are Cloud members. Some are local foreground stars, while some are even background objects (AGNs - Active Galaxy Nuclei).
Another reprint summarizes LMC SSS's as follows:
A very useful paper providing positions and finder charts for Magellanic
Cloud X-ray sources appears in Publ. A.S.P. for January 1997.
Cheers,
A few additional words about Draco C-1 for those interested to have a look
at it:
An I-band excellent finding chart is published by Aaronson et al. (1982)
ApJ 254, 507. Inside 4 arcmin from C-1 there are also C-2 and C-3, the only
other known carbon stars is the Draco dwarf galaxy (satellite of our own
Galaxy). They all shine around V=17 and I=15 mag.
The ROSAT observations on the Super-Soft X-ray Source nature of
Draco C-1 have been discussed at the June 1996 Colloquium on Symbiotic
Stars (the proceedings due to appear in press in these weeks).
The ultraviolet properties as inferred from IUE observations have been
discussed by Munari & Buson (1994, Astron.Astrophys. 287, 87).
The WD in C-1 is so hot and luminous that no better explanation exists
that it is stably burning the accreted material from the carbon giant
companion. A bright outburst (no one so far recorded) could onset any
moment. From application of standard mass-luminosity relations
it appears that the WD in Draco C-1 is closing on the Chadrasekhar mass,
opening bright prospects for a SN Ia display.
Because the distance module and reddening of the Draco galaxy is
a SN Ia exploding there could rival in apparent magnitude with Vega !
A last word about finding charts of ROSAT sources. Apart from those in
the Grainer et al. (ed) proceedings, finding charts for 384 and 169
respectively extreme ultraviolet sources (EUV) observed by ROSAT
can be found in:
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