On V482 Cyg sequence


(vsnet 675, Kiss Laszlo)

Dear colleagues,

It seems to me that there is a little doubt with V482 Cyg's sequence. My opinion is that comparison stars marked as 121 and 128 N and NW from V482 Cyg are not correct (the source is an AAVSO chart which was made before the early 80's).

The field is as below (south is up):

                * V482
                                      5'
          . 128                [--------------]

                   . 121

The magnitude difference visually does not look 0.7 magn. I have found them in the Guide Star Catalog as GSC 2678.771 (='128') and GSC 2678.1450 (='121') with the same brightness which is 11.6.

On the other hand, I have looked at V482 Cyg's light curve based on Hungarian observations and I have found very large scatter during its last minimum in the 80's exactly in this brightness region, as one can see below:

              JD   mg.  obs.  JD   mg.  obs.
             47702 125  SCH  47720 122  FID
             47707 120  FID  47721 131  RIP
             47708 131  PPS  47721 123  FID
          !  47709 120  FID  47722 131  RIP
          !  47709 130  PPS  47723 126  SCH
             47713 123  FID  47725 122  FID
             47713 126  MZS  47727 125  SCH
          !  47714 131  RIP  47728 123  SCH
          !  47714 123  FID  47729 123  FID
             47715 131  RIP  47729 130  MZS
             47715 125  SCH  47732 132  RIP
             47716 131  RIP  47733 123  SCH
             47720 126  SCH  47733 132  RIP
             47720 131  RIP  47734 132  RIP

These observers are very experienced and they used the same chart. Of course there are many more possibilities to cause such scatter but I think it would be quite useful to look at these stars. Unfortunately there are different sequences too, which make visual estimates almost uncomparable.

Because of the recent fading of V482 Cyg it would be important to find a more reliable reference.

Sincerely,
Laszlo Kiss.

Intercomparison of sequences

(vsnet 678, Taichi Kato)

My recent CCD measurements and a photovisual sequence in AJ 109, 538, on which my zero-point depends, are as follows for the denoted stars and one more of similar magnitude. (All mags are shown on the VSNET chart.)

     AAVSO mag.   pv mag    VSNET V-mag
  ------------------------------------------
       12.1       11.70       11.66
       12.8       11.60       11.63
       11.9         --        11.87

Yes, I also suspect up to 1 mag difference for these comparison stars have been responsible for large scatters. The fainter AAVSO sequence seems to be in better agreement with the CCD one.

VSNET chart: ftp://ftp.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp/pub/vsnet/charts/V482_Cyg.ps

Regards,
Taichi Kato

VSNET chart

V482 Cyg page


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